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News and Article: A1325-W940
魏京生基金会新闻与文章发布号：A1325-W940
Release Date: Sept. 27,
2020
发布日：2020年9月27日
Topic: Wei Jingsheng Was
Invited as Keynote Speaker to Talk about Sino-USA Relationships Since China
Joined the WTO, at the Academic Thought Seminar
标题：魏京生受邀在纽约思想者俱乐部、国际战略智库联盟联合举办的新一期学术思想讨论会上主讲中国加入WTO以来的中美关系
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Wei Jingsheng Was
Invited as Keynote Speaker to Talk about Sino-USA Relationships Since China
Joined the WTO, at the Academic Thought Seminar Jointly Organized by the
Thinkers Club of New York and the International Strategic Think Tank Alliance
Today, the Thinkers Club
of New York and the International Strategic Think Tank Alliance jointly
organized a new academic thought seminar.
The keynote speaker was Mr. Wei Jingsheng. The theme of the seminar was: How did the
United States misjudge the Chinese Communist regime repeatedly since it gained
Most-Favored-Nation status? An analysis
of the future direction of Sino-US relations.
The seminar lasted for 3
hours and was hosted by Rong Wei and Zhao Yunlong. Participants were active in thinking and
spoke enthusiastically.
The panelists included:
Hu Ping, Xu Youyu, Wang Juntao, Li Jinjin, Zhang Gang, Zhang Aimei, Teng Biao,
Liu Yawei, Li Weidong, Gu Weiqun, Guo Yanhua, Deng Yuwen, Jian Ping, Xiao Jin,
Luo Weinian, Zhu Qi, Yi Gai, etc. and some public intellectuals in China.
Related video link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjikcy_hgVA
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The following is a
summary of Mr. Wei Jingsheng’s speech.
Rong Wei:
Mr. Wei, please start
with the Chinese Communist Party’s gain of permanent
Most-Favored-Nation (MFN) status and its entry into the WTO.
Wei Jingsheng:
In 1994, the Chinese
Communist Party (CCP) detained me. This
was the 18-month illegal detention. They
called it “residential surveillance”. During that detention period, a
representative of the CCP came to negotiate with me. At that time, he mentioned that the main
profit of the CCP comes from foreign trade, at about 30%, of which 70% was from
the United States. Without these
profits, China's economy would collapse.
At that time, I made an appointment to meet with US Secretary of State
Warren Christopher, who was a relatively tough politician in the United States
against the Communist regime. Our
meeting would lead to further economic sanctions. The Communist regime was very concerned about
these issues at that time.
By 1997, Jiang Zemin and
President Clinton had exchanged visits, which meant that the political sanctions
against the CCP were basically lifted, with the condition to free me and Wang
Dan. Otherwise, Clinton could not easily
to explain the rapprochement to the people in the United States. After the political sanctions were lifted,
they were immediately considering lifting the economic sanctions. When I met Clinton on December 8, 1997, there
was an episode. I was persuading Clinton
to use the annual review of most-favored-nation treatment to put pressure on
the CCP and improve human rights in China.
At the time, National Security Adviser Sandy Berger interjected: We
can't give up all business to Europeans either.
The two of us quarreled, and Clinton came forward to stop our argument.
After the meeting, a
congressman drove me to a private party.
Those present were executives or presidents of major companies, and some
even spoke Chinese. During the party,
everyone said a lot of clichés that praised my
bravery. After the meal, they finally
got to the point at the coffee time.
They hoped that I would cooperate with them, and even said that
afterwards, my work would get huge donations from them, even reaching hundreds
of millions of dollars.
I asked what
cooperation. They said that trade with
China has encountered great obstacles, and they hope I will cooperate with them
to end economic sanctions against China.
I immediately objected and quarreled fiercely with them, thinking that
not punishing the Communist Party would be a betrayal of American democracy and
freedom. At this time, a woman refuted
me fiercely and said: But the USA can't return to the McCarthy era. I retorted to her angrily, saying: During the
McCarthy era, some American intellectuals were indeed treated unfairly, but at
the same time, the Communist regime massacred millions Chinese. Was McCarthy’s
anti-communism and prevent-communism wrong?
The conversation ended unhappily.
Even at that time, I felt that the American business community was the
most powerful force in pushing for the lifting of economic sanctions against
China.
Maybe they knew that it
was impossible to get my cooperation, and they needed to do more preparation
and lobbying. Two years later, when I
returned to the United States from Taiwan in 1999, Nancy Pelosi approached me
and said: Someone proposed to give China permanent MFN status. I immediately decided to cooperate with
Congressional members from both parties to oppose this proposal. But because Pelosi’s
first press conference was at the time when we were at the United Nations in
Geneva with head on fighting against the Communist regime, I was not able to
participant it.
After returning from
Geneva, I found that the situation was worse than I thought. Many heavyweight members of the both parties
and some Congressional committees strongly supported giving China permanent MFN
status. This included the most powerful
financial committee. Its chairwoman said
at a hearing: the Hong Kong Democratic Party Chair Martin Lee lobbied in
Washington DC to promote permanent most-favored-nation status to China, and China's
democratic movement leaders also support the most-favored-nation to China. At that time, a reporter asked who was the
leader of the democracy movement in China.
Madam chair did not answer. That
reporter asked three times and said: Wei Jingsheng, the leader of the Chinese
democratic movement, and is right here on the scene, you can ask him to
speak. But again she changed the subject
without response.
At that time, this issue
was very hot in the media, and everyone understood that most-favored-nation
status was a weapon against the CCP.
Withdraw this weapon, all statements and resolutions against the CCP
would become toothless things. If you
can't pose a threat to the other, why should the other care about you? At that time, public opinion surveys in the
United States showed that about 70% of the Americans opposed giving the CCP
permanent MFN status. The first reason
was that it was not conducive to improving human rights in China, and the
second was that cheap goods coming into the United States will cause a lot of
unemployment in the USA.
Many American
politicians have paid a heavy price for human rights in China and the interests
of American workers. But the behavior of
our Chinese was too disappointing. In
particular, facing tremendous pressure from the CCP, Hong Kong and Taiwan have
come forward to untie the trouble knot for the CCP strengthening this
enemy. This is incredibly stupid. So after the CCP was successful to get the
permanent MFN, many congressmen said to me that they didn't want to care about
Chinese affairs anymore -- we fought for you all with a price, but your
behavior was so bad, we don't want to hear the word China anymore.
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Wei Jingsheng Foundation
News and Article: A1325-W940
魏京生基金会新闻与文章发布号：A1325-W940
Release Date: Sept. 27,
2020
发布日：2020年9月27日
Topic: Wei Jingsheng Was
Invited as Keynote Speaker to Talk about Sino-USA Relationships Since China
Joined the WTO, at the Academic Thought Seminar
标题：魏京生受邀在纽约思想者俱乐部、国际战略智库联盟联合举办的新一期学术思想讨论会上主讲中国加入WTO以来的中美关系
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魏京生受邀在纽约思想者俱乐部、国际战略智库联盟联合举办的新一期学术思想讨论会上主讲中国加入WTO以来的中美关系
今天上午，纽约思想者俱乐部、国际战略智库联盟联合举办新一期学术思想讨论会，主讲嘉宾是魏京生先生。主题是：从当年最优惠国开始,美国如何一再误判中共?未来中美关系走向分析。
由荣伟、赵云龙主持的研讨会开了3小时，参加者思想活跃，发言也踊跃。
讨论会嘉宾还有：胡平、徐友渔、王军涛、李进进、张钢、张艾枚、滕彪、刘亚伟、李伟东、顾为群、郭岩华、邓聿文、建平、萧劲、罗慰年、朱其、易改等以及部分国内公知学者。
相关录像链接：https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjikcy_hgVA
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以下为魏京生先生的发言摘要
。
荣伟：
请魏先生从中共获得永久最惠国待遇和加入世贸组织谈起。
魏京生：
1994年春天中共扣押了我，这就是那次十八个月的非法拘禁，他们叫做监视居住。扣押期间中共的代表来找我谈判。当时他就提到中共的主要利润来自对外贸易，大约百分之三十，其中从美国得到的占百分之七十。没有这些利润，中国的经济就垮了。而我当时约好了和美国国务卿克里斯多弗见面，他是美国对共产党比较强硬的政治家，见面会导致进一步的经济制裁。当时共产党就很在意这些问题。
到一九九七年，江泽民和克林顿实现了互访，这代表对中共的政治制裁基本上解除了。但是条件是放了我和王丹。否则克林顿对美国国内就不太好交代。政治制裁解除之后，他们马上就在考虑解除经济制裁。一九九七年十二月八号我和克林顿见面时有一个小插曲，我在说服克林顿要利用每年一次审议最惠国待遇向中共施加压力，改善中国的人权。当时的国家安全顾问桑迪伯格插话说：我们也不能把生意都让给欧洲人呀。之后我们俩就吵起来了，克林顿出面打圆场。
会面之后，一位国会议员自己开车带我去参加了一个私人聚会。到场的都是各大公司的高管或者总裁，甚至有人会讲中文。吃饭时大家讲了很多赞扬我勇敢的套话，饭后咖啡时间他们终于说到了正题，希望我和他们合作，甚至说之后我的工作会得到他们的巨额捐款，甚至可达上亿美元。
我问什么事情上合作，他们说对中国的贸易遇到了很大阻碍，希望在结束对中国的经济制裁上与他们合作。我立刻表示反对，并与他们进行了激烈的争吵，认为不惩罚共产党就是对美国民主自由的背叛。这时一位女士激烈地反驳我说：那我们美国也不能回到麦卡锡时代呀。我愤怒地反驳她说：麦卡锡时代有一些美国知识分子受到了不公平的对待，但同一个时间共产党屠杀了几百万所谓的地富反坏。难道麦卡锡反共防共错了吗？大家不欢而散。我当时就觉得美国的企业界是推动解除对中国经济制裁的最强大的力量。
可能他们知道不可能得到我的配合，还需要做更多的准备和游说。事情一直拖到两年之后，九九年出我从台湾访问回到美国，南希佩罗西找到我说：有人提案要给与中国永久的最惠国待遇。我立刻决定配合两党议员反对这个提案。但因为佩罗西的第一炮记者会时，我们正好在日内瓦联合国和共产党进行面对面的斗争，我就没参加这第一炮。
从日内瓦回来后我就发现形势比我想象的严重。两党的很多重量级议员和一些委员会，都强烈支持给中国永久最惠国待遇。这其中包括权力最大的财政金融委员会。它的女主席在一次听证会上说：香港民主党主席李柱铭在华盛顿游说，推动给中国永久最惠国待遇；中国的民运领袖也支持给中国最惠国待遇。当时就有记者问民运领袖是谁？主席女士王顾左右而言他。记者连问三次说：中国民运领袖魏京生就在现场，你可以让他出来说话。但她同样地不回答就转移了话题。
当时这个问题在媒体上炒得很热，所有人都明白最惠国待遇是对付中共的武器。取消了这个武器，所有对中共的决议说法都是没有牙齿的东西。如果不能对对方构成威胁，别人为什么要在乎你呢？当时美国的民意调查都说明百分之七十左右的美国民众反对给中共永久最惠国待遇。第一是因为不利于改善中国的人权，第二就是廉价商品进入美国会导致大量失业。
很多美国政治家为了中国的人权和美国工人的利益付出了很重代价。而我们中国人的表现太让人失望。特别是香港、台湾面对中共的巨大压力，反而出面为中共解套，增强敌人的实力，简直是不可思议的愚蠢。所以中共成功以后很多议员都对我说，不想再管中国的事情了--我们为你们付出代价，你们的表现却这么差，我们不想再听到中国这个词了。
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