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发布日：2021年5月20日
Topic: Speaker Pelosi’s Remarks at the Virtual Hearing on “China,
Genocide and the Olympics” in the US Congress
标题：佩洛西议长在美国国会“中国，种族灭绝和奥运会”虚拟听证会上的讲话
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Speaker Pelosi’s Remarks at the Virtual Hearing on “China,
Genocide and the Olympics” in the US Congress
Note by the editor: On
May 18, 2021, Speaker Nancy Pelosi delivered remarks at the
Congressional-Executive Commission on China and the Tom Lantos Human Rights
Commission joint hearing, “China, Genocide and the
Olympics.” In
her remarks, she mentioned Wei Jingsheng’s words about
their effort to push for democracy and human rights in China:
“As Mr. Smith mentioned
the names of some of the prisoners – for the Chinese
government, the most excruciating form of torture is to say [to] the prisoners,
‘Nobody cares.
Nobody even remembers you're here.
And they don't know why. Why
don't you just give up?’ But thank you for your mention, and of
course, Wei Jingsheng was a hero who we nominated him for the Nobel Peace
Prize. He’s so
fabulous, and now in the U.S., but a victim of China's human rights
violations. A real hero to all of
us. And he tells us, ‘When
we speak out, people do hear it in the prisons and in the rest.’
Again, as I've said, if
we don't speak out against human rights violations in China for commercial
reasons, we lose all moral authority to speak out for human rights anywhere.”
As always, we appreciate
decades long effort by Speaker Pelosi and many human rights supporters. The complete remark by Speaker Pelosi is as
followed and also available on the Internet:
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/51821-5
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Pelosi Remarks at Virtual
Hearing on China, Genocide and the Olympics
May 18, 2021
Press Release
Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi delivered remarks at the
Congressional-Executive Commission on China and the Tom Lantos Human Rights
Commission joint hearing, “China, Genocide and the
Olympics,” which also featured testimony from
pro-democracy and human rights experts.
Below are the Speaker’s remarks:
Speaker Pelosi. Thank you very much, Mr. Chairman, for
bringing us together on this very important issue. It's about our values. It's about who we are as a country. It's about more than words. It's about actions. Thank you, and I thank you for the years of
service that you have given to this. You
never have faltered in all of it.
I myself have lost my
innocence on expecting people to behave in a way that is consistent with their
words, when it comes to respecting human rights. But matters have only gotten worse in China,
as you have pointed out, and the genocide recognized as a genocide should be
reason for us to change our actions.
But it's been an honor
to serve with you and with Frank Wolf over the years, and I thank you for
calling forth the bipartisanship of this to Senator Merkley. Jim McGovern has, as has Chris Smith, been a
relentless, persistent advocate for human rights in China –
well, throughout the world – but I've seen him in
action speaking to the leadership of China, going to Tibet, talking – giving – undermining the
misrepresentation that the Chinese are making about what is going on in
Tibet. You talked about Hong Kong. We talked about human rights throughout
China.
But now this rises to
the level of recognized genocide. So,
when I hear Senator Merkley – I'm so excited that we
are reinvigorated with a new, strong voice on all of this, and acknowledge the
work of Senator Rubio in all of this. As
Mr. – as you both have said, this has always been
bipartisan, and that is its strength.
And – and not only is it bipartisan, but we have
built our trust. That serves us well in
other aspects of our lives in the Congress.
Okay, so here we are,
with the Olympics coming up. The
Olympics were held in – in Germany when Hitler was in
charge, and what did he say at the time?
‘Who's ever heard – does
anybody remember the Armenians?’ Remember, he said that when they were
executing the Holocaust. So, it just
seems so strange that we would have history repeat itself.
But let me just say
this: as I said, I've kind of lost my innocence on hoping that corporate
America or the powers that be would ever be consistent in what they had said
and actions they have taken. I want to
join our two Co-Chairs and Senator Merkley, for – the
three of you – for welcoming this distinguished
panel. We want to get to them as soon as
we can.
But we cannot proceed as
if nothing is wrong about the Olympics going to China. That may be a fait accompli. It may not be possible to stop.
The last three decades
have made it clear that we cannot continue to give Beijing a blank check on the
hope that their behavior will simply change.
As you said, Mr. Chairman, that doesn't happen. When the international community said, ‘Let's wait and see.’ Yeah, we waited and saw, and the Chinese
proceeded as normal.
This is what I do know,
because sadly, this is not the first time that Congress and the international
community have held this debate. As Mr.
Smith mentioned back in 1993, we all joined Tom Lantos in passing legislation
urging the IOC to reject China's 2000 bid for the summer Olympics because of
massive violation of human rights. They
did not get it that year. I don't know
if because of us, but – because Sydney prevailed. Then in 2001, again, we joined Tom Lantos and
Chris Cox on Republican side of the aisle to oppose China's 2008 bid, stating, ‘The Olympic spirit is built upon peace and respect’ – as Senator Merkley has said, ‘Peace
and respect to universal, fundamental, ethical principles.’
Sadly, we are here
because the Chinese government continues to crush all political dissent and
trample the basic human rights of its people.
Then in 2008, after
returning from Dharamsala where our Congressional delegation was received by
His Holiness, the Dalai Lama, again – we spoke out,
calling on President Bush to boycott the opening ceremonies, and opposing the
torch – and I oppose the torch relay at San
Francisco. Unfortunately, President Bush
did go to them, but I do want to point out that he did attend our ceremony in
the Capitol. We gave a gold – the Congressional Gold Medal to the Dalai Lama, which made
the Chinese unhappy.
And as we know, a
similarly disappointing debate that took place in the 1990’s
was China's WTO accession, simply giving China a blank check. They fail to comply with market commitments.
In this very room, the Speaker's
Conference Room, I welcomed the President, the Chairman of the Chinese People's
Congress, in this very room, and when I said to him, ‘You're
in violation of the WTO provisions’ – this in
relationship to rubber at the time – he said, ‘When we joined’ – he had his heads
of the committees from, from the China People's Congress –
they said, ‘When we joined the WTO, they said we did
not have to obey those rules.’ So, we've given them, again, a free
ride.
Today, we once again
have an opportunity, obligation to speak out.
While China has charged over – changed over 30
years, in some respects, it is appalling that its human rights record has
worsened. The U.S. Congress has and will
continue our long bipartisan and bicameral commitment to holding China
accountable in this arena as in all others.
Over the past two years
working together – Senator Rubio very much a part of
this – passed and signed into law the Uyghur Human
Rights Policy Act of 2020. And I want to
acknowledge our Congresswoman Wexton for her involvement in all of this. I know she represents a strong Uyghur
population in our country. We passed the
Tibetan Policy and Support Act. We
passed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act of 2019. And already in this Congress, we passed a resolution
condemning the ongoing violation of Hong Kong’s right – rights in Hong Kong by Beijing and the government of Hong
Kong. We reintroduce the Uyghur Forced
Labor Disclosure Act and Uyghur Forced Labor prevention, and we’ll soon take up another legislation urging human – Uyghur Human Rights Protection Act. This is all in a bipartisan, bicameral way.
As Mr. Smith mentioned
the names of some of the prisoners – for the Chinese
government, the most excruciating form of torture is to say [to] the prisoners,
‘Nobody cares.
Nobody even remembers you're here.
And they don't know why. Why
don't you just give up?’ But thank you for your mention, and of
course, Wei Jingsheng was a hero who we nominated him for the Nobel Peace
Prize. He’s so
fabulous, and now in the U.S., but a victim of China's human rights
violations. A real hero to all of
us. And he tells us, ‘When
we speak out, people do hear it in the prisons and in the rest.’
Again, as I've said, if
we don't speak out against human rights violations in China for commercial
reasons, we lose all moral authority to speak out for human rights
anywhere.
So, how sad it is to see
that the corporate sponsors look the other way on China's abuses of out of
concern for their bottom line with some even lobbying against the bipartisan
Uyghur Forced Labor bill. Imagine, they’re lobbying against a bill on forced labor when the country,
our country has declared this a genocide.
Here's what I propose,
and join those who – is a diplomatic boycott. I don't know if it's possible, because we
have not succeeded in the past. And I'm
a big sports fan. I watch the Olympics
in the middle of the night. You ever see
me during the Olympics season, and I'm never sleeping. I'm always watching because usually it's in a
different time zone. And to see the
discipline, the focus, the dedication of our young, of our athletes out there
is just the sources of such pride. Let's
honor them at home.
Let's not honor the
Chinese government by having heads of state go to China to show their support
for their athletes.
When they come home, I
show them even more. Not, ‘You’re home now, it's over, goodbye.’ But even more – more respect, adulation, really, for their, for what
they've done and to honor all of them, not just the medal winners.
But for heads of state
to go to China in wake of a genocide that is ongoing while you're sitting there
in your seats really begs the question: What moral authority do you have to
speak again about human rights any place in the world if you're willing to pay
your respects to the Chinese government as they commit genocide? So honor your athletes at home. Let's have a diplomatic boycott, if in fact,
this Olympics takes place. Silence on
this issue is unacceptable. It enables
China's abuses.
Let me end by quoting
from testimony submitted today from the International Campaign for Tibet, since
this is – Mr. Chairman quoted some of the others: ‘The history of human rights violations has taught us a clear
lesson. Silence equates with license and
that those who turn away from crimes against humanity, bear responsibility for
them. If the IOC does not – nothing to address irrefutable, decades-long, persistent,
severe human rights violations in Olympics host countries like China, it
becomes complicit.’
Now, the Chinese Olympic Committee has established new standards and the
rest. I understand that. But they maintain that they pass those new
rules after the – they awarded China, so let's hope
that for the future of those new rules.
I just want to go back
to our friend Tom Lantos. Years ago, I
mean, after like ten years of doing this, and still not really having as much
success as we would like to have in terms of human rights in China – and by the way, it's about proliferation of weapons and
delivery systems that work to rogue nations.
It's about – it's about violations of our trade
relations. It's about a lot of things,
including the human rights violations.
And what I said to him – I said, ‘Tom, this is so – we're not making
any success.’ He
said – ‘Nancy,’ he said, ‘The road on human rights is a long one. You must be patient. You must be patient, but you must be
persistent.’
And in the spirit of Tom
Lantos, with Chairman, Mr. McGovern, and Mr. Smith, both of our leaders in the
leadership of the Tom Lantos Commission – thank you for
your chairmanship, Mr. McGovern, of it.
It is – it is a long road and we must be
patient. But we want some successes as
well, and I think one would be if elite countries of the world withhold their
attendance at the Olympics and instead save their energy and their enthusiasm
for their athletes to welcome them when they come home and give them a
beautiful send off when they go. That
would that would be a giant step forward.
I've been told by President
Trump that President Xi told him that the people in these education camps – the Uighur education – ‘really like
being there.’ ‘Really like being there.’ No, they don't, President Xi. They don't like being there. They like being home with their families.
So, again, I thank all
of you for your courage, for your leadership, for the clarity of the
message. And I'm very, very proud of the
bipartisanship that has been central to this bipartisan, House and Senate,
bipartisan, bicameral, all-American support for human rights throughout the
world. Thank you all for your
leadership.
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News and Article: A1381-W990
魏京生基金会新闻与文章发布号：A1381-W990
Release Date: May 20,
2021
发布日：2021年5月20日
Topic: Speaker Pelosi’s Remarks at the Virtual Hearing on “China,
Genocide and the Olympics” in the US Congress
标题：佩洛西议长在美国国会“中国，种族灭绝和奥运会”虚拟听证会上的讲话
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佩洛西议长在美国国会“中国，种族灭绝和奥运会”虚拟听证会上的讲话
编者注：2021年5月18日，美国国会议长南希•佩洛西（Nancy
Pelosi）在美国国会及行政当局中国委员会和汤姆•兰托斯（Tom
Lantos）人权委员会联合举办的“中国，种族灭绝和奥林匹克运动会”听证会上发表了讲话。在讲话中，她提到了魏京生关于他们推动中国的民主和人权所作的努力的话：
“正如史密斯先生提到某些囚犯的名字一样-对于中国政府而言，最令人痛苦的酷刑形式是对囚犯说：“没人在乎。没人记得你在这里。而且他们不知道为什么。你为什么不放弃？”但是感谢您的提及，当然，魏京生是一位英雄，我们提名了他获诺贝尔和平奖。他是如此出色，现在在美国，却是中国侵犯人权行为的受害者。我们所有人的真正英雄。他告诉我们，‘当你们说出话时，人们会在监狱和其它地方听到它。”
再次，如我已说过的，如果我们出于商业原因不反对中国的侵犯人权行为，那么我们将失去所有道德权利，无法在任何地方为人权大声疾呼。”
我们一如既往地赞赏佩洛西议长和许多人权支持者数十年来的努力。佩洛西议长的完整讲话如下，也可从以下互联网页上获得：
https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/51821-5
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佩洛西在“中国，种族灭绝和奥运会”虚拟听证会上的讲话
2021年5月18日
新闻稿
华盛顿特区–南希•佩洛西（Nancy Pelosi）议长在中国国会及行政当局中国委员会和汤姆•兰托斯（Tom
Lantos）人权委员会有关“中国，种族灭绝和奥林匹克运动会”的联合听证会上发表了讲话，其中还包括民主人士和人权专家的证词。以下是佩洛西议长的讲话：
佩洛西议长：主席先生，非常感谢您在这个非常重要的问题上将我们召集在一起。这是关于我们的价值观。这与我们作为一个国家的身份有关。不仅仅是言语。这与行动有关。谢谢，我感谢您多年来为此的服务。您从来没有动摇过。
我本人在期望人们在尊重人权方面言行一致而失去了天真。但是，正如您所指出的，在中国，情况只变得更糟，种族灭绝被视为种族灭绝应该成为我们改变行为的理由。
多年来，与您及与弗兰克•沃尔夫（Frank Wolf）一起工作是个荣幸，我感谢您向参议员默克利（Merckley）提出两党合作。吉姆•麦戈文（Jim
McGovern）和克里斯•史密斯（Chris
Smith）一样，一直是中国人权的坚定倡导者–乃至全世界–但我看到他以行动与中国领导人交谈，去西藏，交谈–给予–破坏了中国人对西藏正在发生的事情的虚假陈述。您谈到了香港。我们谈到了整个中国的人权。
但现在，这情况上升到了公认的种族灭绝的程度。因此，当我听到默克利参议员，让我感到非常激动的是，我们为这一切正以一种新的，强有力的声音重新振作起来，并感谢卢比奥参议员在所有这些方面的工作。就像你们都说过的那样，这一直是两党的，这就是它的力量。而且-不仅是两党的，我们还建立了信任。这在国会生活的其它方面对我们都有好处。
好的，奥运会就将开始，我们在这里。希特勒掌权是，奥林匹克运动会在德国举行，当时他说了什么？
“谁听过？有人记得亚美尼亚人吗？”请记住，他说过，他们正在大屠杀之时。因此，这似乎太奇怪了，以至于我们会让历史重蹈覆辙。
但是，我要说：正如我说的那样，我因真心希望我们的美国公司或所拥有的力量在他们的言论和所采取的行动中始终如一，而失去了天真。我要加入我们的两位联合主席和默克利参议员，以你们三个人的名义来欢迎这个杰出的小组成员。让他们尽早发言。
但是我们不能继续，好像去中国参加奥运会没错。那可能是既成事实，可能无法停止。
在过去的三十年中，我们已经明确表示，我们不能继续给北京一个空白的支票，以期他们的行为改变。主席先生，正如您所说，这不会发生。当国际社会说：“让我们拭目以待。”是的，我们拭目以待，中国人却正常不变。
我确实知道这一点，因为可悲的是，这并不是国会和国际社会首次就此进行这辩论。正如史密斯先生在1993年提到的那样，我们所有人都加入了汤姆•兰托斯（Tom
Lantos）的立法，敦促国际奥委会因严重侵犯人权而拒绝中国2000年申办夏季奥运会。那一年他们没有得到。我不知道是否是因为我们，而是-因为悉尼胜出。然后在2001年，我们再次与汤姆•兰托斯（Tom
Lantos）和代表过道对过的共和党的克里斯•考克斯（Chris
Cox）一起，反对中国2008年的申办，并宣称“奥林匹克精神是建立在和平与尊重的基础上的”
–正如默克利参议员所说的那样，“和平和对普遍的，基本的，道德的原则的尊重。”
遗憾的是，我们之所以来到这里，是因为中国政府继续镇压所有政治异议并践踏其人民的基本人权。
然后，在2008年，国会代表团从达赖喇嘛接见我们的达拉萨拉回国后，我们再次大声疾呼，呼吁小布什总统抵制开幕式，并反对火炬。我在旧金山反对了火炬传递。不幸的是，布什总统确实跟他们去了，但我要指出，他确实参加了我们在国会大厦举行的仪式。我们给达赖喇嘛送了一枚国会金质奖牌，这使中国人不高兴。
众所周知，在1990年代发生的同样令人失望的辩论是中国加入世界贸易组织，这是给中国的一张空白的支票。他们没有遵守市场承诺。
在这个议长会议室的房间，我欢迎中国人大主席，当我对他说：“您违反了WTO的规定”
–但他说，“我们加入了”。他是中国人大会的负责人。他们说，“当我们加入WTO时，他们说我们不必遵守那些规则的。”因此，我们再次为他们提供了免费的搭车服务。
今天，我们再次有机会，有义务大声说出来。尽管30多年，中国在某些方面有所变化，但令人震惊的是，中国的人权记录更加恶化。美国国会已经并将继续我们长期的两党和两院共同的承诺，要求中国像其它所有国家一样在这个领域承担责任。
在过去的两年中，卢比奥参议员的非常努力地以共同努力通过了2020年维吾尔人权政策法案并将其签署为法律。我要感谢我们的女议员韦克斯顿（Wexton）参与了所有这一切。我知道她代表了在我们国家的维吾尔人口。我们通过了《西藏政策和支持法》。我们通过了《
2019年香港人权与民主法》。在本届国会中，我们已通过一项决议，谴责北京和香港政府对香港权利的持续侵犯。我们重新引入了《维吾尔强迫劳动信息披露法》和《维吾尔族强迫劳动预防法》，不久之后，我们将通过另一部敦促人权的立法，即《维吾尔族人权保护法》。这一切都是两党，两院制的。
正如史密斯先生提到某些囚犯的名字一样-对于中国政府而言，最令人痛苦的酷刑形式是对囚犯说：“没人在乎。没人记得你在这里。而且他们不知道为什么。你为什么不放弃？”但是感谢您的提及，当然，魏京生是一位英雄，我们提名了他获诺贝尔和平奖。他是如此出色，现在在美国，却是中国侵犯人权行为的受害者。我们所有人的真正英雄。他告诉我们，‘当你们说出话时，人们会在监狱和其它地方听到它。”
再次，如我已说过的，如果我们出于商业原因不反对中国的侵犯人权行为，那么我们将失去所有道德权利，无法在任何地方为人权大声疾呼。
因此，我在看到企业赞助商对中国滥用职权视若无睹就感到可悲，因为他们越过了自己的底线，甚至有人游说来反对两党的维吾尔族强迫劳动法案。想象一下，当我们国家宣布那个国家在种族灭绝时，他们正在游说反对强迫劳动法案。
这是我的建议，并加入那些要进行外交抵制的行列。我不知道是否有可能，因为我们过去没有成功过。而且我是一个体育迷。我在深夜看奥运会。你甚至在奥运会季节见过我，我从不睡觉。我一直在观看，因为通常是在不同的时区。看到我们的有纪律、关注的年轻运动员的奉献精神，正是这种自豪感的来源。让我们在家对他们表示敬意。
我们不要让国家元首去中国在表示对运动员的支持成为对中国政府表示敬意。
当他们回家时，我会向他们展示更多。不是“你现在回家了，再见。”但是，更多的是，更多地是对他们表达敬意，感谢他们所做的一切，并要让所有人，而不仅仅是获得奖牌的人感到荣誉。
但是要让国家元首在发生种族灭绝之时去中国，确实引出了一个问题：当中国政府犯下种族灭绝罪行时，您愿意向中国政府表示敬意吗？您还有在世界任何地方再次谈论人权的道德权威吗？
因此，请在家里向您的运动员致敬。让我们进行外交抵制，如果这次奥运会确实会进行的话。在这个问题上保持沉默是无法接受的。它助长了中国的虐待行为。
最后，我要引用国际西藏运动今天提交的证词，因为这是主席先生引用了其它一些证词：‘侵犯人权的历史给了我们清晰的教训。沉默等同于许可，让那些背弃危害人类罪的人对此负有责任。如果国际奥委会不采取任何行动，就无法解决像中国这样的奥运会主办国中无可辩驳的，长达数十年，持续不断的严重侵犯人权的行为，那么它就会变得同谋。’现在，中国奥委会已经建立了新的标准。我明白。但是他们坚持认为，在授予中国后，他们会通过这些新规则，因此，我们希望这些新规则能在未来出现。
让我回到我们的朋友汤姆•兰托斯（Tom Lantos）。多年前，我是说，经过大概十年的努力，在中国的人权方面却还没真正取得我们希望获得的成功。顺便说一句，这与武器及运载系统的扩散到流氓国家有关。这违反了我们的贸易关系。这涉及很多事情，包括侵犯人权的行为。我对他说：“汤姆，是这样-我们没有取得任何成功。”他说：“南希，人权之路漫长。你要有耐心。您必须耐心，但必须坚持不懈。’
秉承汤姆•兰托斯的精神，我们两位汤姆•兰托斯委员会领导的领导人麦戈文先生和史密斯先生–谢谢你麦戈文先生担任主席。这是一条漫长的道路，我们必须耐心。但是我们也希望获得一些成功，我想如果世界上的一些精英国家不参加奥运会，而是节省精力和热情，让运动员回家后再热情欢迎他们，并在他们去的时侯献上美丽的祝福。那将是成功的典范。那将是巨大的进步。
特朗普总统告诉过我，习近平主席告诉他，这些教育营地中的人们（维吾尔教育）“真的很喜欢在那里。”“真的很喜欢在那里。”不，他们不喜欢，习近平主席。他们不喜欢在那里。他们喜欢在家与家人在一起。
因此，我再次感谢大家的勇气，领导才能和信息的清晰度。我为两党，参众两院，两党，全体美国人以都全世界人权的支持为核心而感到非常自豪。谢谢大家的领导。
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